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Post by blankrasta on Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:40 pm

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Re: CARAT 2011

Post by mumuchi on Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:58 pm

sapa tak nampak gambar macam aku klik aja klik kat sos tu...tak leh hotlinking rasaya..

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Re: CARAT 2011

Post by bijan on Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:26 pm

Takleh view la..

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Post by powerw00t on Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:30 pm

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Post by bijan on Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:43 pm

powerw00t wrote:ada kari mutu la [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Dah jumpa .. AAV-7

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Post by dewafrost on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:47 am

CARAT tahun main kat mana hah???? masih lagi kemaman kerrr... haiyooohhhh... rugi lagiiiii

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Re: CARAT 2011

Post by blankrasta on Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:13 am

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Re: CARAT 2011

Post by fsdagger on Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:14 am

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dari sumber mr. blankrasta...ada fsdagger di pinggang beliau Cool

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Post by 5229 on Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:06 pm

The latest achivement on RMN are during the CARAT excercise 2011. This training involve 2 vessel, which miming a war/combat operations between RMN frigate of KD Lekiu (F2000 Yarrow) and USS Howard (Arleigt Burke Class).

During the mock combat, KD Lekiu of RMN be able to detect USS Howard and be able to 'shoot' 2 unit of Exocet MM40Block II, and USS Howard personnel only knows they have been 'shooted' after the radar warning receiver identify on it.

This mock game are started with RMN and USS were located in point A and B, then they moved towards eachother, anyone can identy and shoot first is the winner (with few rules such as must locked the target first and so on).

To avoid from been detected, the vessel move in tactical movement suitable with the radar range, engine power, range of misile and so on.

The loose of USS howard bring a havoc in USS in US defense forum and also to the top brass of USS. As stated by KD Lekiu captain, he said that the winning is not because of human factor only, or asset only, but how the human and asset integrated each other to become a deadly weapon.

RTN also has sent a request to RMN to learn the tactic (which is new tactics I think, because they dont follow the book and any exist tactics) and we still waiting the answer. In orally, RMN Admiral already give a positive answer, and the most of important thing is to set a good time, date and location for the training.

Please google Ex Carat 2011 for further info.

sapa2 boleh verify mende ni tak?nk taw...

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Post by jebat2000 on Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:23 pm

5229... detik forum tu dari negara mana tu? Kisah tu heboh jugak kat PP. Nanti LIMA saya akan tanya CO lekiu sendiri duduk perkara. Nak call payah sket.

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Re: CARAT 2011

Post by 5229 on Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:36 pm

jebat2000 wrote:5229... detik forum tu dari negara mana tu? Kisah tu heboh jugak kat PP. Nanti LIMA saya akan tanya CO lekiu sendiri duduk perkara. Nak call payah sket.

PP tu apa jebat.leh kasik link tak.nk baca...

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Re: CARAT 2011

Post by jebat2000 on Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:39 pm

5229 wrote:
jebat2000 wrote:5229... detik forum tu dari negara mana tu? Kisah tu heboh jugak kat PP. Nanti LIMA saya akan tanya CO lekiu sendiri duduk perkara. Nak call payah sket.

PP tu apa jebat.leh kasik link tak.nk baca...
ni link nya buka thread TLDM..
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Post by mumuchi on Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:49 pm

tapi rasa kena jadi ahli baru leh bukak link PP tu. Personally menda tak official announce saya segan nak komen.

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Re: CARAT 2011

Post by 5229 on Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:52 pm

itu penat den cari tread TLDM dop jupa.kene reg dulu kot..

kalau camtu xpola muchi.biar je la rahsia.baru nk bangga.hehehee

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Post by mumuchi on Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:58 pm

ala register aja la..bukan depa makan worang pun What a Face ..sini ramai gak dual citizenship Cool

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Post by 5229 on Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:07 pm

dah reg.jap lagi carik.. Laughing

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Re: CARAT 2011

Post by heavyduty on Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:09 pm

have you seen the firepower the arleigh burkes are packing?the exocets would probably be smoked by sea sparrows or phalanx

but then again USN has been slipping

RMN shouldnt be proud if this happened in a training exercise.the same as USN shouldnt be proud if they got a hit on TAR

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Post by jebat2000 on Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:12 pm

mumuchi wrote:ala register aja la..bukan depa makan worang pun What a Face ..sini ramai gak dual citizenship Cool
hahahhaa nanti kena gigit... btw muchi.. cerita camtu biasanya kuar dr mulut krew cic diorang sendiri. Biasa je pada saya bukan kali pertama pun TLDM boleh tembak kapal lain dulu. Ini semua taktikal. Tapi kalau kes ni TLDMsampai pihak USN pun dok argument , nampak mcm kelakau jugak la. macam drama la pulak. penonton dapat tengok scene lekiu dan scene USN tu..

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Post by observateur on Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:48 pm

jebat2000 wrote:5229... detik forum tu dari negara mana tu? Kisah tu heboh jugak kat PP. Nanti LIMA saya akan tanya CO lekiu sendiri duduk perkara. Nak call payah sket.

wooo 1st hand story.

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Post by MMW on Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:29 am

heavyduty wrote:have you seen the firepower the arleigh burkes are packing?the exocets would probably be smoked by sea sparrows or phalanx

but then again USN has been slipping

RMN shouldnt be proud if this happened in a training exercise.the same as USN shouldnt be proud if they got a hit on TAR

If I'm not mistaken Arleigh Burke carrying SM-2 not ESSM! I stand corrected.

Yes I agree that SM-2 may smoke out Exocet, but Phalanx may be a little bit hard. Exocet Block-2 has been programmed to specifically duping CIWS by movement and speed.


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Post by yinchet on Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:45 am

MMW wrote:
heavyduty wrote:have you seen the firepower the arleigh burkes are packing?the exocets would probably be smoked by sea sparrows or phalanx

but then again USN has been slipping

RMN shouldnt be proud if this happened in a training exercise.the same as USN shouldnt be proud if they got a hit on TAR

If I'm not mistaken Arleigh Burke carrying SM-2 not ESSM! I stand corrected.

Yes I agree that SM-2 may smoke out Exocet, but Phalanx may be a little bit hard. Exocet Block-2 has been programmed to specifically duping CIWS by movement and speed.


I'm not sure about that...
I think phalanx should be able counter the Exocet. unless they were unable to it coming..

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Post by MMW on Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:56 am

yinchet wrote:
MMW wrote:
heavyduty wrote:have you seen the firepower the arleigh burkes are packing?the exocets would probably be smoked by sea sparrows or phalanx

but then again USN has been slipping

RMN shouldnt be proud if this happened in a training exercise.the same as USN shouldnt be proud if they got a hit on TAR

If I'm not mistaken Arleigh Burke carrying SM-2 not ESSM! I stand corrected.

Yes I agree that SM-2 may smoke out Exocet, but Phalanx may be a little bit hard. Exocet Block-2 has been programmed to specifically duping CIWS by movement and speed.


I'm not sure about that...
I think phalanx should be able counter the Exocet. unless they were unable to it coming..

I just read somewhere that the latest anti ship missile stood a better chance against CIWS by movement and speed. They have prepogramme to avoid the CIWS "steel curtain" by getting input from their terminal radar. That's why USN introduce RAM.... just to be sure!




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Post by yinchet on Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:04 am

MMW wrote:
yinchet wrote:
MMW wrote:
heavyduty wrote:have you seen the firepower the arleigh burkes are packing?the exocets would probably be smoked by sea sparrows or phalanx

but then again USN has been slipping

RMN shouldnt be proud if this happened in a training exercise.the same as USN shouldnt be proud if they got a hit on TAR

If I'm not mistaken Arleigh Burke carrying SM-2 not ESSM! I stand corrected.

Yes I agree that SM-2 may smoke out Exocet, but Phalanx may be a little bit hard. Exocet Block-2 has been programmed to specifically duping CIWS by movement and speed.


I'm not sure about that...
I think phalanx should be able counter the Exocet. unless they were unable to it coming..

I just read somewhere that the latest anti ship missile stood a better chance against CIWS by movement and speed. They have prepogramme to avoid the CIWS "steel curtain" by getting input from their terminal radar. That's why USN introduce RAM.... just to be sure!


hmm... interesting evasion movement added into new ASM.
anyway newer ASM is coming with stealth design and higher speed making it more scarier...

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Re: CARAT 2011

Post by mumuchi on Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:55 am

Storming the beach

Monday August 29, 2011
Storming the beach

By DZIRHAN MAHADZIR

A combined force of Malaysian and American troops stormed the
beaches of Tanjung Resang in Johor as part of their joint training.


THE Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (Carat) exercise is
part of an annual routine in which a largely US Navy and US Marine
Corps-centred military force travels around the South-East Asian region
to conduct bilateral military manoeuvres with the armed forces of the
country it visits.

It is a military exercise which has been ongoing between Malaysia and
the United States for 17 years, and this year’s Malaysian phase of
Carat from June 6 to 15, comprised training and exchange symposiums,
at-sea naval exercises, amphibious beach landings, jungle warfare,
military ops in urban terrain, diving exercises and a community
assistance programme.

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Here we come: An AAV-7 making its way to the beach during the Carat exercise.


The training involved 1,800 US Navy and Marines, and 800 personnel
from all three services of the Malaysian Armed Forces and the Malaysian
Maritime Enforcement Agency.

Just as impressive were the naval ships committed to the exercise – from the US were the amphibious dock landing ship USS Tortuga, the guided-missile destroyer USS Howard, the frigate USS Ford, and for the first time in the Malaysian phase of Carat, an attack submarine, the USS La Jolla. The Royal Malaysian Navy vessels were the frigate KD Lekiu, the corvette KD Lekir and the offshore patrol vessel KD Terengganu.

“One of the most important outcomes of Carat will be face-to-face
engagements or interactions between participants from both forces which
will foster special bonds of friendship,” said Vice Admiral Datuk Ahmad
Kamarulzaman Ahmad Badaruddin at the launch of the exercise.

A group of Malaysian journalists were invited to observe and take
part in the joint beach landing – by paratroopers of the 9th Royal Malay
Regiment (Para) and Marines of the 2nd Battalion, 23rd Marine Regiment,
in the US Marines’ AAV-7A1 Amphibious Assault Vehicles – at Tanjung
Resang in Johor. It may seem odd for our paratroopers to be deploying
from the sea rather than jumping from an aircraft, but the 9th RMR’s
secondary mission is to carry out amphibious assaults.

The beach landing dress rehearsal was straightforward. The combined
force of Malaysian Paras and US Marines would depart from the USS Tortuga
in AAV-7s which would then carry them to the beach close to an “inland
enemy position” where the troops would disembark then attack the enemy
position.

The AAV-7 reminds one of a huge metal beast, an unsurprising effect
given its size which can fit 25 troops in addition to its four-man crew.
At a water speed of 13kmph, the AAV-7 appears to crawl on the sea. The
armament consists of a turret with a .50 calibre heavy machine gun, and a
Mk19 40mm automatic grenade launcher.

The iron beast impression of the AAV-7 is further enhanced once its
engine starts up and more so when one is sitting inside the passenger
bay of the AAV-7. Riding inside it is akin to a bumpy rollercoaster
ride. The benches come without seatbelts, so to minimise being thrown
about, you need to grip the bench tight.

This was a peacetime exercise, so the experience of riding the AAV-7
could be considered mild. In a real war, adding to the noise of the
vehicle would be the sound of gunfire and artillery shells, and bullets
or shrapnel bouncing off the vehicle. There would also be the inevitable
tension of battle.

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A US Marine and Malaysian Paratrooper
side by side in an AAV-7 which can fit 25
and then some.


Serious stuff

Despite the fact that this was just an exercise, the troops were all
business. A military exercise is something to be taken seriously as it
enables participants to find out their weaknesses and to be more
prepared for real battle. In warfare, there is no restart or reset
button and a mistake could well be the last thing you do. Still the
troops did relax a bit for pictures of them to be taken inside the
vehicle.

At the drop-off point, a small group of troops secured the area
around the vehicles while the bulk of the men moved into the plantation
and headed towards the objective on the hill, in a move known as a
“bounding overwatch” – namely a series of alternating manoeuvres between
the units, where some troops take up positions to provide covering fire
while others advance; the advancing units then stop at a certain point
so that they can now provide covering fire for the earlier units which
covered them and are now advancing to new positions.

While the troops head to their target, the AAV-7s moved off to the
designated pick-up point to await the return, with the Tanjung Resang
locals watching the exercise from a safe distance as the military police
had cordoned off the area. A vehicle like the AAV-7 has a limited field
of visibility and therein lies the danger. A person could accidentally
get run over because he falls below the driver’s sight.

When the dress rehearsal was concluded, the Paras and Marines broke for lunch on the beach before heading back to the USS Tortuga anchored
offshore. The media group was also to join the troops in the AAV-7s
back to the ship, so we were issued lifejackets and given a safety
briefing. All military activities in peacetime carry a degree of risk
and something going wrong can be just as fatal as it happening in
wartime.

As luck would have it, the AAV-7 I was assigned to had a broken
interior fan, and since it was mid-day and the overhead hatches of the
AAV-7 had to be sealed lest a wave swamps the interior with water, the
45-minute ride to the USS Tortuga was excruciatingly hot.

The Paras on board opted to sleep throughout the ride, one of the
hallmarks of soldiers all over the world – the ability to snatch
precious sleep whenever they can in whatever situation.

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US Marines
take up firing
positions
during the
Carat
exercise.


Stewing in the heat, I realised that while Malaysians and Americans
were enjoying their Sundays, there were young men and women selflessly
serving to keep their countries safe, something not often acknowledged
nor appreciated.

On the USS Tortuga

Forty-five minutes later, a thump and the sound of tracks clattering across steel plating indicated that we had entered the USS Tortuga. It took a few additional minutes before the all-clear was given to open the hatches of the AAV-7.

We were shown to our quarters and given some time to recover. Next was a tour of the ship, and one gets an idea of how huge the USS Tortuga is (190m in length) when you see Humvees and trucks parked on the deck with still plenty of space to spare.

The USS Tortuga can carry 500 troops on board and has a crew
of 413. Being a Landing Platform Dock ship, it is designed to carry
troops and equipment for amphibious assaults (hence vessels like the Tortuga
are generally called amphibious ships, or “amphibs”) along with the
landing craft and vehicles to transport soldiers to the beach, It also
serves as a mobile offshore base.

Such capabilities also make ships like the USS Tortuga vital in humanitarian and disaster relief operations. The USS Tortuga, which is homeported in Sasebo, Japan, played a key role in relief efforts following the recent tsunami in March.

After the tour, we were taken to meet the commanding officer of the USS Tortuga,
Commander Adrian Ragland, who despite the late hour and his myriad
responsibilities, greeted us warmly and spoke enthusiastically about the
ship and its operations.

“I’ve always been an amphibious ship guy and the Tortuga is
the fifth ship I’ve been stationed on in my career,” he told us. “I love
serving on amphibious ships, as they bring about a lot of flexibility
for various missions.”

Ragland was also effusive in his praise for the crew, particularly in
how the ship and his men played its part in Operation Tomodachi, the US
armed forces relief operation to support Japan following the earthquake
and devastating tsunami in the eastern part of the country.

On the exercises, he said: “Carat is about working together to build
strong bonds of capabilities and friendship between different countries
and it’s an experience I always enjoy.”

He confessed then that he was looking forward to the end-of-exercise dinner to be hosted by the Malaysian Armed Forces.

“I’ve been stationed overseas for most of my career but I’m not much
for foreign foods, but I just love Malaysian food so I’m looking forward
to the dinner where I’ll get another chance to have some of your great
cuisine.”

Day of the attack

The next morning was a hive of activity in the dockwell as the Paras
and US Marines prepared for the beach landing. The media were assigned
to the AAV-7s and what happened next was interesting.

The AAV-7s had to exit the ship at full speed straight into the sea,
and there would be a serious problem if the AAV-7 did not float as it
normally does because the water was deep.

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USS Tortuga’s Commander Adrian Ragland says
Carat is about working together to build strong
bonds and it’s an experience he always enjoys.


In the passenger bay of the AAV-7, the Paras warned us of the
seawater that would splash in from the seams of the overhead hatch as
the vehicle enters the water – and this was precisely what happened when
the AAV-7 throttled out of the dockwell.

Still, the AAV-7 floated and trundled through the sea, so being
splashed with seawater was a minor inconvenience. As per normal safety
precautions, the media were issued US body armour which fascinated the
Paras, some of whom grumbled why body armour was not standard issue for
Malaysian troops and they only get them on overseas missions.

After a few minutes of pleasant chat, the Paras opted to take 40
winks but five minutes before the vehicle reached the beach, they were
all on alert as weapons were readied and last minute instructions passed
around.

Unfortunately, the troops I was with were assigned to provide
security around the areas so I missed the chance to move with the force
attacking the hill and could only watch from where the AAV-7s were
parked. In less than half an hour, the operation was over and the troops
returned to ride the AAV-7s back to the beach where lunch was served.

Overall, the Carat exercises are an important part of the
US-Malaysian military cooperation as they provide a strong avenue for
the troops of both countries to train together, exchange knowledge and
build friendships and understanding – a crucial necessity as,
increasingly in today’s world, the armed forces of most countries would
more often than not be undertaking operations jointly rather than
separately.

Dzirhan Mahadzir is a freelance defence journalist and analyst
based in Kuala Lumpur. He writes for a number of international defence
publications including
Janes Defence Weekly (as Malaysian correspondent), Navy International, International Defence Review, Asian Military Review and Defence Review Asia.

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Post by marc_zman on Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:48 am

As per normal safetyprecautions, the media were issued US body armour which fascinated the Paras, some of whom grumbled why body armour was not standard issue for Malaysian troops and they only get them on overseas missions.

selain faktor RM$$$ & practicallity e.g. pakai body armour tuk jungle warfare? isk isk isk.. bawak itu iv drip ngan air glukose banyak2 lor.. anybody got any other reasons?

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