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Post by MMW on Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:28 am

bas mana dikekahkan utk demo nih?

Serbu bas paling bahaya wooo.... Ingat apa jadi kat rampasan bas kat Filipina pada 23 Ogos 2010 yang menyebabkan 8 pelancong Hong Kong mati?

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Harap-harap GGK kita tak le begitu.


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Post by MMW on Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:38 am

Nak tengok lagi gambar polis Filipina serbu bas pergi kat sini

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Post by atreyudevil on Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:39 am

yg paling facepalm waktu ketuk pintu bus sama sledgehammer tp bleh jatuh lak dalam bas

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Post by yinchet on Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:52 am

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bas mana dikekahkan utk demo nih?

Serbu bas paling bahaya wooo.... Ingat apa jadi kat rampasan bas kat Filipina pada 23 Ogos 2010 yang menyebabkan 8 pelancong Hong Kong mati?

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Punca kegagalan antaranya tak cukup peralatan nak serbu bas dan kurangnya training

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Harap-harap GGK kita tak le begitu.


in term of training our PGK and GGK received top notch training and also join training programme with other counter part...
as for equipement wise they are more well equipe than our philippines counter part...
so worry not...
below are some of the training aboard exercise receive by our PGK....

The PGK regularly trains abroad with units such as the British SAS, Indonesian Brigade Mobil, Singapore Special Tactics and Rescue, Australian Special Air Service Regiment, New Zealand Special Air Service, FBI Hostage Rescue Team, US Green Berets and the US Army Special Operations Command Pacific Unit (SOCPAC).

On December 10, 2003, the then Inspector General of Police, Tan Sri Mohd Bakri Bin Haji Omar, launched the training programme between the USSOCPAC and the PGK at the General Operations Force Training Center in Ulu Kinta, Perak. The team of SOCPAC were to conduct joint exercise with the PGK, under codename Advance Vector Balance Mint for a duration of 2 weeks. Only 42 out of the 194 participants completed the inaugural programme.
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Post by sCorpene on Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:09 am

GPS rasanya tak baper elok
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Post by oioi on Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:33 am

atreyudevil wrote:yg paling facepalm waktu ketuk pintu bus sama sledgehammer tp bleh jatuh lak dalam bas

tol2...aku tgk video tu kt youtube...mcm hampeh...
no element of surprise n fast deploy...bt operasi selamtkn tebusan pon trhegeh2....
yg xbleh blah psal nk ketuk kaca kt pintu bas depan(mmg berdekah2 aku ketwa cmne polis tu leh wt aksi mengong kt situ)...ketuk kaca bas pkai hammer, hammer siap bleh slip masuk kt dlam bas tu...polis tu siap menggagau cari blk hammer, dh dpat smbung pecahkan tgkap...aiyooo...
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Re: MyMil @ Hari Terbuka Tentera Darat

Post by yinchet on Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:41 am

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atreyudevil wrote:yg paling facepalm waktu ketuk pintu bus sama sledgehammer tp bleh jatuh lak dalam bas

tol2...aku tgk video tu kt youtube...mcm hampeh...
no element of surprise n fast deploy...bt operasi selamtkn tebusan pon trhegeh2....
yg xbleh blah psal nk ketuk kaca kt pintu bas depan(mmg berdekah2 aku ketwa cmne polis tu leh wt aksi mengong kt situ)...ketuk kaca bas pkai hammer, hammer siap bleh slip masuk kt dlam bas tu...polis tu siap menggagau cari blk hammer, dh dpat smbung pecahkan tgkap...aiyooo...

saya tengok pun facepalm...
mereka macam tak tentu arah sahaja ketika operasi...
tak ada teknik langsung...
kesian tengok hostage itu...
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Post by sCorpene on Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:49 am

tu berlakon jer kot
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Post by sCorpene on Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:52 am

tu berlakon jer kot
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Post by dewafrost on Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:01 am

facepalm?????
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Re: MyMil @ Hari Terbuka Tentera Darat

Post by atreyudevil on Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:06 am

dewafrost wrote:facepalm?????

ala DF lingo orang muda remaja nih
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Post by venez on Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:12 am

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dewafrost wrote:facepalm?????

ala DF lingo orang muda remaja nih
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Post by mumuchi on Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:24 am

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MMW wrote:
bas mana dikekahkan utk demo nih?

Serbu bas paling bahaya wooo.... Ingat apa jadi kat rampasan bas kat Filipina pada 23 Ogos 2010 yang menyebabkan 8 pelancong Hong Kong mati?

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Punca kegagalan antaranya tak cukup peralatan nak serbu bas dan kurangnya training

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Harap-harap GGK kita tak le begitu.


in term of training our PGK and GGK received top notch training and also join training programme with other counter part...
as for equipement wise they are more well equipe than our philippines counter part...
so worry not...
below are some of the training aboard exercise receive by our PGK....

The PGK regularly trains abroad with units such as the British SAS, Indonesian Brigade Mobil, Singapore Special Tactics and Rescue, Australian Special Air Service Regiment, New Zealand Special Air Service, FBI Hostage Rescue Team, US Green Berets and the US Army Special Operations Command Pacific Unit (SOCPAC).

On December 10, 2003, the then Inspector General of Police, Tan Sri Mohd Bakri Bin Haji Omar, launched the training programme between the USSOCPAC and the PGK at the General Operations Force Training Center in Ulu Kinta, Perak. The team of SOCPAC were to conduct joint exercise with the PGK, under codename Advance Vector Balance Mint for a duration of 2 weeks. Only 42 out of the 194 participants completed the inaugural programme.

betul yincet...ada sebab senario bas ni diketengahkan berbanding senario2 lain Cool

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Re: MyMil @ Hari Terbuka Tentera Darat

Post by tin on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:18 am

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new copula + meriam baruu????

no laaahhh..... kan memang ada Condor versi 20mm oerlikon......

nope. this is different cupola and different gun altogether. tgk laras nampak mcm bushmaster punya laras. but I may be wrong...
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Post by tin on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:22 am

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nak guna dgn apa nii??? dgn G-5????, dah test kerr????


yup..
tapi test tu tak tau plak...
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ini salah satu projek RnD stride. jadi most probably dah diuji.

kalo mau taww lebih lanjut, jom kita wat lawatan ke stride. DF jadi kapla perancang Razz
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Post by sCorpene on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:24 am

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nak guna dgn apa nii??? dgn G-5????, dah test kerr????


yup..
tapi test tu tak tau plak...
kena tanya yang pakar

ini salah satu projek RnD stride. jadi most probably dah diuji.

kalo mau taww lebih lanjut, jom kita wat lawatan ke stride. DF jadi kapla perancang Razz[/quote]

lawatan sambil belajau....
teringat zaman bebudak wat lawatan sambil belajau
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Post by tin on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:26 am

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dewafrost wrote:dier nyer result jerr lerrr yg kita tak tahu lagii kann... mcm mana dia punyer kuasa letupan, pin point accuracy, range and so on, so on...
range dan warhead aku rasa sama macam normal artillery round..cuma tambahan sensor la kot..mungkin next cycle stride bole pegi ke gps guided round plak macam excalibur..if the laser sensor can withstand g-force during firing..why can't gps sensor Very Happy

COTS GPS punya sensor tak leh tahan g force yg tinggi la inno. kena reka sendiri. excalibur punya GPS sensor pon BAE reka sendiri (dan cas beribu kali ganda heheheh...)

kalo tak salah wa, selain laser, Taming Sari leh tukar sensor kpd IR. GPS coming soon kot?
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Post by tin on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:28 am

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yihaa..malaysian copperhead.. What a Face

wa nak tanya kalau guided rounds apsal pamer macam ni..awat tak letak kat arti unit terus..

nanti kena eclipse dgn meriamnya. kat pameran, org selalu tgk aset, jarang org tgk pelurunya Razz
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Post by innocentti on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:29 am

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owh xtau lak bro... thanks for info..

Sama-sama tukar info bang.... ada benda yang saya tak tahu, abang tahu... Laughing

Sungguhpun demikian cadangan untuk letak GPS pada taming sari tu memang bagus sebab GPS ni tak diganggu oleh keadaan cuaca (tak le mcm gelombang siaran Astro Laughing ). Laser ni kalau hari hujan atau kabus atau ribut petir, susah le mau di'tenangkan' (aim) pada sasaran. Itu sebab negara-negara kuasa besar bangunkan sistem GPS sendiri

Lagi satu laser ni kena ada orang "aim"kan. GPS tak. Taming sari boleh diprogramkan awal-awal lagi. Masa kenderaan tunda bergerak masukkan aje longitude dan latitude sasaran. Sampai aje tempat tembak, tembak 3 butir lepas tu cabut le (Shoot and scoot). Operasi di bawah 2 minit. Jadi kalau ada counter battery fire dari pihak musuh tak le aset artileri kita musnah. Kalau ada GPS kebarangkalian untuk meledak kat sasaran amat tinggi cyclops

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Post by tin on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:31 am

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yihaa..malaysian copperhead..

Kalau tengok sebelah taming sari tu ada laser designator lagi. Ini GGK punya territory nie... Very Happy

Tapi yang paling surprise ialah NTW-20 le . Tak pernah tau Malaysia dah ada. Tengok wikipedia pun tak mention Malaysia guna. Tanya kat abang GGK tu dia kata dah lebih setahun dia orang guna Laughing

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Kalau gitu saya rasa banyak lagi surprise (rahsia) yang tak diberitahu. Dulu pembelian ERA VERA pun rahsia tapi ntah macam mana dapat dihidu dek pemberita (atau spy).

Tak dipamerkan pulak ERA VERA tu mungkin tengah digunakan kot Very Happy

sebenarnya, pemberita dah taww lama dah. cuba selak balik majalah pertahanan penghujung 90an/ awal 2000. cumanya TDM tak pernah pamerkan jer.
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Post by sCorpene on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:32 am

sepatutnya dari 20 tahun dahulu dah kena ada benda nie
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Post by tin on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:33 am

yaminz wrote:Lupa lak, aritu nampak meriam mortar 81mm cap Africa selatan... Yg yugoslavia kita dah xguna k? Suspect Suspect Suspect

guna lg...
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Post by tin on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:36 am

mumuchi wrote:Inertial Guidance kalau combine dengan Civil GPS macamana ketepatannya?

Tak silap eden Ruskies ada offer join Glonass satu masa dulu, kalau memonry wa betul lah..

no can do bos. kalo US wat denial of service, civilian punya gps pon yilek.

glosnass belom cukup satelit lagi. baru ada 22 bijik.
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Post by sCorpene on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:36 am

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yaminz wrote:Lupa lak, aritu nampak meriam mortar 81mm cap Africa selatan... Yg yugoslavia kita dah xguna k? Suspect Suspect Suspect

guna lg...

ada erk???
mortar EXPAL pon ada kan dari Spain
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Post by innocentti on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:38 am

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yaminz wrote:Lupa lak, aritu nampak meriam mortar 81mm cap Africa selatan... Yg yugoslavia kita dah xguna k? Suspect Suspect Suspect

guna lg...
yang skali ngan adnan mortar unit tu aku rasa yugos punya..
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Post by tin on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:39 am

sCorpene wrote:sepatutnya dari 20 tahun dahulu dah kena ada benda nie

kalo ikut sepatutnya, sepatutnya kita dah jadi kuasa besor dah di alam ini... What a Face
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